Minutes, IBIS Quality Committee 07 August 2012 11:00-12:00 EST (08:00-09:00 PST) ROLL CALL Cisco Systems: Tony Penaloza Ericsson: Anders Ekholm Green Streak Programs: Lynne Green Huawei Technologies: Guan Tao IBM: Bruce Archambeault Greg Edlund IOMethodology: Lance Wang Mentor Graphics: John Angulo Micron Technology: Moshiul Haque, Randy Wolff Nokia Siemens Networks: * Eckhard Lenski QLogic Corp.: James Zhou Signal Consulting Group: Tim Coyle Signal Integrity Software * Mike LaBonte Teraspeed Consulting Group: * Bob Ross Texas Instruments: Pavani Jella Everyone in attendance marked by * NOTE: "AR" = Action Required. -----------------------MINUTES --------------------------- Mike LaBonte conducted the meeting. Call for opens and IBIS related patent disclosures: - None AR Review: - Mike check on IEEE FSV status - No reply yet from Bruce Archambeault - Mike ask Anders about his level of interest in External Test - No reply yet - Mike prepare a presentation on FOM issues - Done New items: Mike showed a presentation "A Look at the IBIS FOM" - slide 2: - Bob: The numbers seem high for the differences - Mike: The problem is that the denominator is the entire rectangular area - Bob: The variable X could be time, not voltage - Mike: The ack.c code treats it as voltage Mike showed the Accuracy Handbook - Eckhard: This allows for measuring error in the X axis as well as the Y axis - Mike: The X axis is a good metric for edges, but not for DC errors - Bob: In the time domain it's meaningless to measure over several cycles - Mike: It's meaningless to measure any time away from edges - David and Roy specified specific features to measure: - DC levels - switching time - slopes - We might specify an exact data pattern that must be measured - For example 010 - For SerDes it should not be necessary to run 1 million bits to test model accuracy - Bob: If there is settling involved it would not catch that Mike showed the Ack user guide and C code - Mike: The code uses a passed in value for the denominator, default = 1.0 - Bob: Lance might be interested in this AR: Mike ask Lance if he can repeat his correlation presentation - Bob: My view was that 95% correlation is where significant differences show up - But this shows much worse differences at 95% - Mike: A sliding time interval might be a better reference - An error at a given time has nothing to do with what happens at other times - Bob: Also a sample interval might be chosen that shows good correlation for waveforms that actually do not correlate well Next meetings: - Next meetings August 21 and September 4 - Meeting ended at 12:15 ET